And we have relied on, for the last 150 years, since the birth of the modern corporation, a lot of tactics and techniques that are dependent on the physical presence of people and being in the same room. I think it's really a shift from physical-first to digital-first. No one can stand alone and say, we expect or demand our employees to show up in the office 9:00 to 5:00 five days a week if there are alternatives where people can go to work for similar levels of compensation, similar kinds of jobs and have that flexibility.īut there's a broader question. But I think many people found aspects of this crazy situation that they want to retain, the ability to lose the commute, spend more time with family, have the flexibility to retain their job and live where they want to live.Īnd ultimately, I think, just like compensation, the kind of working arrangements that employers offer are driven by the market. And look, no one would choose to relive the last year.

STEWART BUTTERFIELD: Well, that hasn't shown up in any kind of material way. What have you seen? What have you been seeing in the business as more folks get vaccinated? We've been talking to you throughout the year-plus of the pandemic. Let's dive into the future of work with Slack co-founder and CEO Stewart Butterfield.

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